What Kids can Learn

This is a fascinating interview discussing what children can learn if given a computer and little, if any, instruction. Very Cool. Links on the progress since this interview are at the end of the post.

Q: This is your concept of minimally invasive education?

A: Yes. It started out as a joke but I’ve kept using the term … This is a system of education where you assume that children know how to put two and two together on their own. So you stand aside and intervene only if you see them going in a direction that might lead into a blind alley.

The interview explores what happened when:

Mitra simply left the computer on, connected to the Internet, and allowed any passerby to play with it. He monitored activity on the PC using a remote computer and a video camera mounted in a nearby tree.

What he discovered was that the most avid users of the machine were ghetto kids aged 6 to 12, most of whom have only the most rudimentary education and little knowledge of English. Yet within days, the kids had taught themselves to draw on the computer and to browse the Net. Some of the other things they learned, Mitra says, astonished him.

Q: What else have you learned?

A: Well, I tried another experiment. I went to a middle-class school and chose some ninth graders, two girls and two boys. I called their physics teacher in and asked him, “What are you going to teach these children next year at this time?” He mentioned viscosity. I asked him to write down five possible exam questions on the subject. I then took the four children and said, “Look here guys. I have a little problem for you.” They read the questions and said they didn’t understand them, it was Greek to them. So I said, “Here’s a terminal. I’ll give you two hours to find the answers.”

Then I did my usual thing: I closed the door and went off somewhere else.

They answered all five questions in two hours. The physics teacher checked the answers, and they were correct. That, of itself, doesn’t mean much. But I said to him, “Talk to the children and find out if they really learned something about this subject.” So he spent half an hour talking to them. He came out and said, “They don’t know everything about this subject or everything I would teach them. But they do know one hell of a lot about it. And they know a couple of things about it I didn’t know.”

I would think some might object to the fact that such conditions exist. But they do for millions of kids today.

I’m not even going to suggest that we use this [technique] for adults. The only reaction we got from adults was, “What on earth is this for? Why is there no one here to teach us something? How are we ever going to use this?” I contend that by the time we are 16, we are taught to want teachers, taught that we cannot learn anything without teachers.

And I think we can all learn some ideas from this experiment that could be useful.

My favorite charity is Trickle Up. If you want to do something to change the conditions for many who don’t have access to this blog I recommend it.

Related: PBS Frontline storyHole in the Wall FoundationA ‘hole in the wall’ helps educate IndiaThe Hole-In-The-Wall 2003 studyAppropriate TechnologyWater and Electricity for all

17 thoughts on “What Kids can Learn

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  7. Fergus Mayhew

    I’m amazed at what my ten year old is capable of doing, and finding, on the Internet. Quite independent of me or his siblings, he has created several blogs, taught himself to capture and edit screenshots of a MPRG he plays (Club Penguin) and started posting tips and tricks for other Club Penguin participants. We’ve done nothing to foster this, simply made a computer available in the family room for limited amounts of time each day.

  8. Drew

    I totally agree with you Fergus. My nephews and nieces are even younger as your ten years old. I am amazed every time when I see hem browse through my own free games website I once put together for them. They learn so quickly! If I think what I did at that age, it was probably nothing but playing outdoors with a ball when the weather was fine and reading comics and books inside when it was raining or cold. On the other end I don’t know if kids are happier these days knowing so much already. Sometimes I have the feeling that kids can’t be true kids anymore.

  9. Anonymous

    Growing up with a computer in the home has made a huge difference for young people today. They see the internet as a natural extention of themselves. Their blog is a psuedo diary which lets their friends know what happened to them or what is going on after school. My youngest even has a blog – she turned the picture book we posted online after she was born into her own page and she is only 10 years old!

  10. Monica

    I remember seeing a program about this on the tv and found it facinating.

    It was amazing how these children managed without guidance to figure it all out. Its almost as if they are preprogrammed to adapt to this computer age.

    I wonder if children nowadays will ever experience the simple “toys” of our yesterdays.

    I believe that there has probably been more of a leap in the knowledge that they have gleaned over the last decade than at any time before.
    Are we going to have a future generation of whizkids, I think we are.

  11. Eva White

    I think the experiment you carried out was marvelous. I think the concept of this self learning should be implemented in schools. Actually if I go to see we really become dependent on the tutors to teach us. And like machines we learn what the tutor has taught us. I think it’s great to inculcate this habit of self learning among children. to find solutions to your own problems, if faced with any difficulty we are there to help.

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  14. Anonymous

    I’m a huge fan of the idea of Nature vs Nurture (siding with Nurture). The idea of Tabula Rasa means that everyone starts off pretty close to the same (give or take some IQ, etc.), and has the ability to learn to be anything. If we give people computers when they’re young, they’ll go to Wikipedia and learn things really fast, especially if they computers are pre-loaded with things that will encourage learning, etc.

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